Francis E and Frances A (Collum)

Grimshaw, Progenitors of a Large Family in East Hampton, Long Island, New York

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Francis E Grimshaw was born in New York in about 1833. Frances A (“Fanny”) Collum was also born in New York, in about 1839. Francis and Frances were married on September 22, 1857 in East Hampton, where they apparently settled and raised a large family of about 13 children, including Richard E, Mary J, William S, George B, Francis (“Frank”) E, Frances (“Fannie”) M, Samuel C, James H, John, Elijah C, Charles and Frederick Grimshaw.

Francis E Grimshaw was apparently the son of Francis Grimshaw, Sr. and Mary (Sherman) Grimshaw. Francis Grimshaw, Sr. was born in England according to the 1880 U.S. Census record for Francis Jr. However, Mary Sherman was born in New York, indicating that Francis Sr. immigrated to the U.S. before marrying Mary Sherman. Research on the LDS FamilySearch website indicates that Francis Grimshaw, Sr. may have been the son of Richard D and Elizabeth (Bowker) Grimshaw. And Richard (b 1772) may have been the son of Mary Grimshaw and John Chapman.


Webpage Credits

Marriage Record of Francis Grimshaw and Frances Collum

Montauk Deed from HeritageQuest, Reference 97

1860, 1870, and 1880 U.S. Census Records

Descendants of Richard E. Grimshaw, Oldest Son of Francis and Frances

Descendants of James Henry Grimshaw, seventh Son of Francis and Frances

Consolidated Descendant Chart for Francis and Frances Grimshaw

Possible Descendants of George B Grimshaw

Possible English Candidate for Francis Grimshaw, Sr, Immigrant

Where is East Hampton, New York?

Montauk Point Lighthouse Pictures

New York Times Article, December 12, 1891, on Fire Loss

References

Webpage Credits

Thanks go to Tom Grimshaw and Mike Grimshaw for making contributions to this webpage on possible descendants of George B Grimshaw, son (fourth child) of Francis and Frances Grimshaw.

Marriage Record of Francis Grimshaw and Frances Collum

Francis Grimshaw and Frances Collum were married in East Hampton, New York on September 22, 1857 according to records of the Town of East Hampton1. A copy of the record is shown in Figure 1 below.

Figure 1. Portion of marriage records of East Hampton, showing marriage of Francis and Frances on September 22, 1857.

Montauk Deed2 from HeritageQuest, Reference 97


1860, 1870, and 1880 U.S. Census Records

1860 Census Record

(http://www.grimshaworigin.org/WebPages/1860Census.htm)

The 1860 U.S. Census found Francis and Fanny living with their young son Richard and Bertha Rogers in East Hampton, New York. Francis’ profession is shown as “Pedlar”).

1870 Census Record

(http://www.grimshaworigin.org/WebPages/1870Census.htm)

 

245

NY

Grimshaw

Francis

37

1832

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Male

246

NY

Grimshaw

Frances E

31

1838

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Female

247

NY

Grimshaw

Richard E

12

1857

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Male

248

NY

Grimshaw

Mary J

10

1859

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Female

249

NY

Grimshaw

William S

9

1860

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Male

250

NY

Grimshaw

George B

7

1862

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Male

251

NY

Grimshaw

Francis E

5

1864

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Male

252

NY

Grimshaw

Fannie M

3

1866

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Female

253

NY

Grimshaw

Samuel C

1

1868

New York

White

East Hampton

Suffolk

Male

1880 Census Record

(http://grimshaworigin.org/grimshaw-immigrants-to-the-new-world/1880-census3-ny-to-pa/


Census Place:

East Hampton, Suffolk, New York

    

NYC-6

Source:

FHL Film 1254935 National Archives Film T9-0935 Page 172B

     
 

Relation

Sex

Marr

Race

Age

Birthplace

F. E. GRIMSHAW

Self

M

M

W

47

NY

Occ:

Farmer

Fa: ENG

Mo: NY

   

Frances GRIMSHAW

Wife

F

M

W

41

NY

Occ:

Keeping House

Fa: ENG

Mo: ENG

   

Richard E. GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

21

NY

Occ:

Farm Laborer

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

Mary J. GRIMSHAW

Dau

F

S

W

19

NY

Occ:

At Home

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

William S. GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

18

NY

Occ:

Farm Laborer

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

George B. GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

16

NY

Occ:

Farm Laborer

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

Frank E. GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

14

NY

Occ:

Farm Laborer

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

Frances M. GRIMSHAW

Dau

F

S

W

12

NY

Occ:

At Home

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

Samuel GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

11

NY

Occ:

At School

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

   

James H. GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

9

NY

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

     

John GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

7

NY

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

     

Elijah GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

6

NY

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

     

Charles GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

3

NY

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

     

Frederick GRIMSHAW

Son

M

S

W

1

NY

Fa: NY

Mo: NY

     

Maria BARNES

Other

F

S

W

81

NY


1880 Census Images from Ancestry.com

Descendants of Richard E Grimshaw, Oldest Son of Francis and Frances

The following letter from the Edwin A. Grimshaw collection provides a bit of information on the descendants of the oldest son of Francis and Frances.

 

Grimshaw, Mrs. Fred A. – Englewood, Fla – (EAG 28)

April 14, 80

Dear Mr. E. A. Grimshaw –

Found your letter very interesting. Your branch of the family may go back to my husband’s grand fathers family. His grand father was Richard Edward Grimshaw and one of thirteen children – most of whom were boys.

He came to East Hampton, L.I.N.Y. at an early age, I believe 16, and as far as I know, always lived there and died at age 83. Don’t remember if he had been born in that area.

His only child, son, Chauncey Edward, D. had 2 sons. William John, killed in auto accident at age 21 and my husband, Fred A. (Frederick) D. 1979. We have 2 children; Richard John, living in Lititz, Pa and a daughter, Carol Baggett, living in Mesquite, Texas. Richard has 2 daughters, married, and one son, John Frederick, who is in the Air Force in Okla.

Since we moved from Long Island to Fla. 9 years ago, we often had people stop by to ask if we know Grimshaws from Mich, Boston etc. None of which were known to us.

Hope this may be of some help to you.

Mrs. Fred A. Grimshaw

(Marion H. Grimshaw)

470 Viridian St.

Englewood, Fla 33533

 

Descendants of James Henry Grimshaw, seventh Son of Francis and Frances

The following entry from a companion webpage on “Indicated Immigrants” provides a bit of information on the descendants of the James Henry Grimshaw, seventh son of Francis and Frances:

Linda M. Adams posted the following important message on the Grimshaw Family Genealogy Forum in August 2001:

Researching James Henry Grimshaw, 7th son of Frances Callum Grimshaw and Francis Grimshaw, Jr. of East Hampton, NY; grandson of Francis Grimshaw Sr. and Mary Sherman Grimshaw. James married Susan Dimon Filer (date unknown at this writing) producing 4 children, Russell Filer Grimshaw (my grandfather), Ruth, Edith and James Roland.

Having difficulty finding birth/death dates for all mentioned. Filer side of family documented in a publication “East Hampton History & Genealogies”.

Anyone with positive information please contact me at kadams@bak.rr.com.

Consolidated Descendant Chart for Francis and Frances Grimshaw

The above information permits the construction of the following preliminary descendant chart for Francis and Frances Grimshaw. Approximate birthdates are from the 1880 U.S. Census.

Francis Grimshaw, Sr., and Mary Sherman

|—-Francis E Grimshaw (ca 1833 – ?) and Frances A Collum (ca 1839 – ?). Married 22 Sep 1857, East Hampton, NY

|—-|—-Richard Edward Grimshaw (ca 1859 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-Chauncey Edward Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-William John Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-Frederick A Grimshaw (? – 1979) & Marion H unknown

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Richard John Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-Daughter 1 Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-Daughter 2 Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-John Frederick Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Carol Grimshaw & unk Baggett

|—-|—-Mary J Grimshaw (ca 1861 – ?)

|—-|—-William S Grimshaw (ca 1862 – ?)

|—-|—-George B Grimshaw (ca 1864 – ?)

|—-|—-Francis (“Frank”) E Grimshaw (ca 1866 – ?) & Mary Mason

|—-|—-|—-|—-Francis Grimshaw (30 Aug 1891, New York, NY – ?) 

|—-|—-Frances (“Fannie”) M Grimshaw (ca 1868 – ?)

|—-|—-Samuel C Grimshaw (ca 1869 – ?)

|—-|—-James Henry Grimshaw (ca 1871 – ?) and Susan Dimon Filer

|—-|—-|—-Russell Filer Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-Ruth Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-Edith Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-James Roland Grimshaw

|—-|—-John Grimshaw (ca 1873 – ?)

|—-|—-Elijah C Grimshaw (ca 1874 – ?)

|—-|—-Charles Grimshaw (ca 1877 – ?)

|—-|—-Frederick Grimshaw (ca 1879 – ?)

Possible Descendants of George B Grimshaw

Hypothesized descendant chart; courtesy of Michael Grimshaw and his son,
Thomas Grimshaw, November 2007…

Francis Grimshaw, Sr., and Mary Sherman

|—-Francis E Grimshaw (ca 1833 – ?) and Frances A Collum (ca 1839 – ?). Married 22 Sep 1857, East Hampton, NY

|—-|—-George B Grimshaw (ca 1864 – ?) & Katherine Fullhardt? (? – 1946, Elmhurst, NY) [Could the B be for Bowker?]

|—-|—-|—-Harry Jenet Grimshaw (3 Aug 1895, New York, NY – Nov 1948, Elmhurst, NY) & Catherine Quinlan (8 Jan 1900, New York, NY – 30 Nov 1972, Elmhurst, NY)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Thomas Francis Grimshaw (21 Oct 1921, New York, NY – ?) & Dorothy May Gray (21 Apr 1922, Larrimore, ND – ?). Married 28 Mar 1948, Oakland, CA

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Michael Grimshaw (19 Apr 1944, Oakland, CA – ) & Cindy Carroll (16 Sep 1958, Ft Worth, TX – )

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-Thomas Earle Grimshaw (21 Oct 1969 – )

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-James Michael Grimshaw (10 Nov 1989, Dallas, TX – )

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-Joseph Ryan Grimshaw (4 May 1992, Dallas, TX – )

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Denise Ann Grimshaw (25 Feb 1947, Paris, France – ) & Jim Parson

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-Michael Parson

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—-
|—-Chris Parson

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Thomasina Ann Grimshaw (3 Jun 1951, Pittsfield, NY – )

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Pete Carl Grimshaw (25 Jul 1952, Falls Church, VA – )

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Mary Elizabeth Grimshaw (26 Nov 1957, Arlington, TX – 1979, MT)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Harry Jenet Grimshaw (b 3 Aug 1925, New York, NY – ?) & Kay ?

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Larry Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Tommy Grimshaw

|—-|—-|—-|—-|—- Harry Grimshaw

|—-|—-Frances (“Fannie”) M Grimshaw (ca 1868 – ?)

The following photos are from Michael Grimshaw, October 2008…

Harry Grimshaw, 1907 (approximately 12 years old; son of George B and Katherine Grimshaw; grandson of Francis and Frances Grimshaw)

Harry Grimshaw, 1917, World War I (approximately 22 years old)

Catherine (Quinlan) Grimshaw, 1963, Elmhurst, L.I., N.Y. (wife of Harry Grimshaw)

Harold and Thomas Grimshaw, 1930, Elmhurst, L.I., N.Y. (sons of Harry and Catherine Grimshaw)

Thomas and Dorothy (Gray) Grimshaw, Wedding Photo; Married 28 March 1948 (son of Harry and Catherine Grimshaw; parents of Michael Grimshaw)

Possible English Candidate for Francis Grimshaw, Sr, Immigrant

Francis Bowker Grimshaw was born in right timeframe (1806) to be father of Francis Grimshaw (b. ca 1833). Frances E Grimshaw, grandson, gave four of his children the same names  – Richard, Francis, Samuel, and John – as the children of Richard (different birth order – John, Richard, Samuel and Francis).

Parents of Francis Grimshaw, Sr, are proposed to be Richard D and Elizabeth (Bowker) Grimshaw.

Richard D Grimshaw may have been the son of Mary Grimshaw and John Chapman…

Resulting descendant chart (if all the above speculation is true)….

John Chapman & Mary Grimshaw

|—-Richard D Grimshaw (ch 10 or 19 Jul 1772, Blackley or Crumpsall – ?) & Elizabeth Bowker (ca 1773, Lancashire – ?). Married 1794, Manchester.

|—-|—-John Grimshaw (ch 30 Aug 1794, Cheetham – ?)

|—-|—-Richard Grimshaw (ch 15 Oct 1801, Cheetham – ?)

|—-|—-Samuel Bowker Grimshaw (12 Jan 1804, Cheetham – ?)

|—-|—-Francis Bowker Grimshaw, Sr. (ch 23 Mar 1806, Cheetham – ?) & Mary Sherman (Francis immigrated, married Mary Sherman, b in NY)

|—-|—-|—-Francis E Grimshaw (ca 1833 – ?) and Frances A Collum (ca 1839 – ?). Married 22 Sep 1857, East Hampton, NY [Does the E stand for Edward?]

|—-|—-|—-|—-Richard Edward Grimshaw (ca 1859 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Mary J Grimshaw (ca 1861 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-William S Grimshaw (ca 1862 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-George B Grimshaw (ca 1864 – ?) [Does the B stand for Bowker?]

|—-|—-|—-|—-Francis (“Frank”) E Grimshaw (ca 1866 – ?) & Mary Mason

|—-|—-|—-|—-Frances (“Fannie”) M Grimshaw (ca 1868 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Samuel C Grimshaw (ca 1869 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-James Henry Grimshaw (ca 1871 – ?) and Susan Dimon Filer

|—-|—-|—-|—-John Grimshaw (ca 1873 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Elijah C Grimshaw (ca 1874 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Charles Grimshaw (ca 1877 – ?)

|—-|—-|—-|—-Frederick Grimshaw (ca 1879 – ?)

Cheetham Hill, Crumpsall and Blackley are all on the north side of Manchester, not far from Prestwich.

It seems likely that this family line is connected to one of the Prestwich Grimshaw lines (see companion webpage), but this hypothesis is based only on geographic proximity. Mary Grimshaw may be descended from one of the three family lines started by three apparent brothers, John, James and George Grimshaw, who initiated their families in about 1680.

Where is East Hampton, New York?

East Hampton is in Suffolk County, on the east end of Long Island. Maps are shown below.

Montauk Point Lighthouse Pictures

The two views of the lighthouse shown below represent contrasting moods…

Source: http://www.laviano.net/East%20End%20of%20Long%20Island/

Source: http://gettingmarriedonlongisland.com/faq.php

Maps showing the location of Montauk Point are shown below.

New York Times Article, December 12, 1891, on Fire Loss

References

1Anonymous, Records of the town of East-Hampton, Long Island, Suffolk Co. N. with other ancient documents of historic value. Sag-Harbor N. J. Hunt, printer, 1887-1957, 5091 pgs (Record #111 of Heritage Quest companion webpage)

2Smith, Raymond A., 1926, Montauk: East Hampton, N.Y.: The Town, 249 p. (Record #97 of Heritage Quest companion
webpage
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Webpage posted November 2004. Updated December 2004 with marriage record and preliminary descendant chart. Updated March 2007 with addition of NY Times article. Updated November 2007 with addition of descendant information from Michael and Thomas Grimshaw and with speculation on the English origins of Francis Grimshaw, Sr. Updated October 2008 with addition of photos of George B Grimshaw descendants from Michael Grimshaw.