Start with 1850 and 1860 U.S. Census info on John & Jane Grimshaw and Philip and Julia Grimshaw. John & Jane both born Isle of Man; Philip born in Isle of Man & Julia in NY (DONE)
Add Thomas & Catharine (Cowley) Grimshaw information on William & Phoebe Grimshaw webpage (DONE)
Add piece on William & Phoebe Grimshaw; youngest of the three youngest brothers (abstract from their webpage) (DONE)
Add info from internet on John, Thomas’ probable brother, married Joney Cannell in Isle of Man http://web.archive.org/web/20050301181856/http://apk.net:80/~ctd/d0000/g0000030.html). List children – John Jr, Jane, Margaret, Anne (DONE)
John and Philip Grimshaw Were Brothers of William Grimshaw of Ironton, Ohio
William C. Grimshaw was born in Great Britain (Isle of Man) and apparently married Phoebe Cain, who was born in Greenup, Kentucky, after immigrating to the U.S. William and Phoebe, who are the subject of a companion webpage, arrived in Lawrence Co., Ohio in about 1847. They apparently had five children – Jennie, William Henry, Ann G. Noble B., and John E. Grimshaw. William Henry, Nobel and John subsequently moved to Illinois. William and Phoebe are apparently buried in Woodland Cemetery, Upper Township, Lawrence Co.
Phillip Grimsha, 1831, New York Myers, Mrs. Lester F., 1968
The record for Phillip is quite sparse (Myers, 1968, p. 21):
GRIMSHA, Phillip
128
I — N
21
Phillip was apparently a New York resident who was also an immigrant, as indicated by the fact that he was recorded in the “I—N” (Immigration Naturalization) pages that were indexed by the reference. Additional research would be required to obtain more detail on his immigration to the U.S. A dual page-numbering system (indicated by the numbers 128 and 21) is used in the index. The entry in the original reference is as follows:
GRIMSHA. Phillip, a native of the Isle of Man, Great Britain, declared his intention of becoming a citizen on June 10, 1831 in Court of Common Pleas, at Oswego, N.Y. He was a resident of Scriba. He took the Oath of Allegiance in Cayuga Co., Oct. 27, 1841. Witnesses, G.W. Foster and Ams Underwood declared that he had complied with the 5 year and 1 year residence requirements.
Candidate Family of Origin for John, Philip and William Grimshaw in The Isle of Man
It appears that William was the youngest child of Thomas and Catherine (Cowley) Grimshaw, who raised a large family on The Isle of Man. William would have been born about the time (1806) indicated for the christening in the descendant chart below, from the LDS Family Search website:
Thomas Grimshaw (ca. 1761, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England) & Catherine Cowley Married 4 Feb 1786.
|—–Margaret Grimshaw (ch. 13 Jan 1787, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England-?)
|—–Catherine Grimshaw (ch.8 Feb 1788, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England -?)
|—–John Grimshaw (ch.28 May 1791, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England-18 Jun1797)
|—–Mary Grimshaw (ch. 14 Jul 1793, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England -?)
|—–Thomas Grimshaw (ch. 17 Jan 1796, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England -?)
|—–Anne Grimshaw (ch. 13 May 1798, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England -?)
|—–John Grimshaw (ch. 22 Jan 1801, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England-?)
|—–Phillip Grimshaw (ch. 2 Oct 1803, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England -?)
|—–William Grimshaw (ch. 27 Jul 1806, Ballaugh, Isle of Man, England -?)
Cindy O’Brian has found an 1850 U.S. Census record of William’s older brother, John, age 49, living in Bushwick, Kings Co, New York with his wife, Jane (age 51) and two children, John and a sibling (Samantha or Catharine), ages 19 and 16, respectively. This census record is shown on a companion webpage as follows:
New York, John and Jane Grimshaw
John and Jane Grimshaw were born on The Isle of Man and were living in Kings County, New York. He was 48 and she was 51; their children, John and Samantha, were 19 and 16 years old. John was born on The Isle of Man, and Samantha was born in New York. John was a toll gatherer. William Hurst (?), a laborer, was living with this Grimshaw family. [Author’s note: It appears that the daughter’s name, shown as Samantha in the 1850 census index, is more likely to be Catharine.]
1850 U.S. Census
New York, John and Jane Grimshaw
John and Jane Grimshaw were born on The Isle of Man and were living in Kings County, New York. He was 48 and she was 51; their children, John and Samantha, were 19 and 16 years old. John was born on The Isle of Man, and Samantha was born in New York. John was a toll gatherer. William Hurst (?), a laborer, was living with this Grimshaw family. John was apparently the older brother of William Grimshaw, who married Phoebe Cain in Kentucky and settled in Lawrence County, Ohio. William and Phoebe are the subject of a companion webpage.
New York, Philip and Julia Grimshaw
Philip and Julia Grimshaw, ages 46 and 39, were living in New York City and had two teenagers with different surnames (Paddock and Morgan) also living in the household. Philip was born in England, Julia was a native of New York.
1860 U.S. Census
187
Grimshaw
John
Galen
Wayne
NY
27
1832
Isle of Man
M
188
Grimshaw
Catharine
Galen
Wayne
NY
25
1834
New York
F
189
Grimshaw
Jane
Galen
Wayne
NY
60
1799
Isle of Man
F
190
Grimshaw
Philip
Galen
Wayne
NY
56
1803
Isle of Man
M
191
Grimshaw
Julia A
Galen
Wayne
NY
48
1811
New York
F
192
Grimshaw
Martha
Arcadia
Wayne
NY
60
1799
England
F
John, Probable Brother of Thomas Grimshaw, and Family, in Isle of Man Records
John was ten years older (born 1751) than Thomas, father of the three brothers who immigrated to America, who was born in 1761.