George and Charlotte (Menard) Grimshaw

Married near Montreal in 1817 and Raised Their Family on Wolfe Island

George Grimshaw was apparently born in New Hampshire in about 1794, most likely the son of William and Elizabeth (Lepninah orZephaniah) Grimshaw. He and Charlotte Menard, a French Canadian, were married at St. Luc, Quebec on September 9, 1817. Sometime later they settled on Wolfe Island, Ontario at the head of the St. Lawrence River, where they owned land on the northern shore of the island. George and Charlotte had several children while on the island. Charlotte apparently died before George moved away from the island, but her grave has not yet been located. George and his children left Wolfe Island, and at least three of his sons moved to Wisconsin. After living for a time in New York, and possibly Pennsylvania, George also moved to Wisconsin and apparently died there.

George and Charlotte’s descendants comprise one of the largest branches of the Grimshaw family in North America. The author of this website is in their family line. Terry (Grimshaw) Micks has conducted extensive research on George and Charlotte’s descendants, which is summarized on a companion webpage. Barbara Bonner has also researched this line (and collateral Grimshaw descendant lines of William and Elizabeth Grimshaw), which is presented on another companion webpage.

Contents

Webpage Credits

Descendant Chart of George and Charlotte Grimshaw

Webpages of Three Children

Marriage Certificate and George’s Baptism Record

Connection of George and Charlotte to William and Mary Ann (Blair) Grimshaw Line

Location and Photos of Land Owned by George and Charlotte on Wolfe Island

1880 U.S. Census Record Showing George Grimshaw Record

Final Resting Places of George and Charlotte Grimshaw

Ancestor Information for Charlotte Menard from Madeleine Menard

Descendants of George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s Children, Marcelina and Eli George Grimshaw

Descendants of George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s Child, Christina Grimshaw

Probable Connection to William Grimshaw, Revolutionary War Veteran

Possible Mariner Connections of George Grimshaw Line

Reference

Webpage Credits

Thanks go to Barbara Bonner, Terry (Grimshaw) Micks, and Bob Grimshaw, for developing much of the information on this webpage, sharing it freely with the author, and educating him on Grimshaw family history. Thanks also to Calvin Lamb for consenting to the inclusion of the marriage and baptism records presented in this webpage. And thanks to Madeleine Menard for posting information on Charlotte Menard’s ancestry on a website; a summary of this information is included below. Finally, thanks to Terry Micks for showing the author around the Oakdale, Wisconsin cemetery, the likely burial place of George Grimshaw. Barbara Bonner on separate occasions provided detailed information on George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s children, Christina, Marcelina and Eli George Grimshaw.

Descendant Chart of George and Charlotte Grimshaw

George and Charlotte’s family tree has been prepared by Terry (Grimshaw) Micks in conjunction with Barbara Bonner and is posted on the Internet. It is presented below in summary form (three generations down). The connection of this family back to the Lancastrian Grimshaws has not yet been established.

George and Charlotte (Menard) Grimshaw’s Descendant Chart

George Grimshaw (About 1794 – ) & Charlotte Menard (About 1795 – )

|—–Christiana Grimshaw (25 Dec 1825 – ) & John Egner

|—–|—–Sarah Ann Egner (16 Feb 1848 – )

|—–Marcelina Grimshaw (About Jan 1828 – )

|—–John James Grimshaw* (1 Aug 1829 – 19 Mar 1907) & Mary Ann Mahoney (About 1822 – )

|—–|—–Eliza Mahoney (About 1846 – )

|—–|—–George Thomas Grimshaw (19 Jul 1849 – 29 Sep 1915) & Aris Phedora Ladd (29 Dec 1848 – )

|—–|—–|—–William Allen Grimshaw (22 Mar 1872 – 1944)

|—–|—–|—–Anna Celestine (“Tina”) Grimshaw (7 Dec 1874 – 19 Oct 1962)

|—–|—–|—–Wallace J Grimshaw (3 Apr 1881 – 1942)

|—–|—–|—–Mary Evelyn (‘Eva”) Grimshaw (13 Jul 1883 – 1964)

|—–|—–|—–Nettie Estelle (“Stella”) Grimshaw (29 Oct 1885 – 26 Jan 1892)

|—–|—–|—–Walter Claude Grimshaw (17 Sep 1890 – 7 Feb 1920)

|—–|—–John Etimer Grimshaw (26 Oct 1850 – 1934) & Eliza Norris (3 Feb 1854 – 9 May 1927)

|—–|—–|—–May Grimshaw (About 1872 – )

|—–|—–|—–Anna Grimshaw (About 1873 – )

|—–|—–|—–Sarah Grimshaw (About 1877 – )

|—–|—–|—–Allice Grimshaw (About 1879 – )

|—–|—–|—–Maud Ethel Grimshaw (Feb 1883 – )

|—–|—–Isiah Grimshaw (About 27 Jun 1853 – About 15 Jul 1853)

|—–|—–Mary Charlotte Grimshaw (About 27 Jun 1853 – About 15 Jul 1853)

|—–|—–William Alexander Grimshaw (20 Aug 1854 – 1934) & Jane Turner (4 Oct 1854 – )

|—–|—–|—–Bulah Grimshaw (About 1873 – )

|—–|—–|—–Jonas Grimshaw (15 Nov 1874 – 13 Feb 1875)

|—–|—–|—–Cora Nellie Grimshaw (1 Jun 1876 – 2 Nov 1964)

|—–|—–|—–Ida Grimshaw (Before 1878 – )

|—–|—–|—–Thomas Henry Grimshaw (13 Jun 1878 – 9 Jan 1961)

|—–|—–|—–Turner Squire Grimshaw (22 May 1880 – 2 Dec 1894)

|—–|—–|—–Bert F Grimshaw (Jul 1882 – )

|—–|—–|—–Frank B Grimshaw (2 Jul 1883 – 17 Oct 1950)

|—–|—–|—–William Riley Grimshaw (4 Aug 1884 – 7 Sep 1884)

|—–|—–|—–Lillian V Grimshaw (14 Aug 1886 – 23 Jul 1969)

|—–|—–|—–Mary Ellen Grimshaw (28 Dec 1888 – )

|—–|—–|—–Roland Clarence Grimshaw (12 Oct 1893 – 7 Sep 1894)

|—–|—–|—–Lovina Grimshaw (9 Sep 1899 – )

|—–|—–Michael Henry Grimshaw (22 Oct 1856 – 26 Oct 1916) & Maria W Norris (10 Mar 1861 – )

|—–|—–|—–Garth Grimshaw (1880 – 1880)

|—–|—–|—–Bertha Luella Grimshaw (16 Jun 1881 – 27 Jan 1921)

|—–|—–|—–William Clarence Grimshaw (8 Jun 1884 – 1 May 1954)

|—–|—–|—–Thomas Meredith Grimshaw (8 Aug 1886 – 23 Mar 1887)

|—–|—–|—–James Henry Grimshaw (4 Feb 1888 – 9 Dec 1930)

|—–|—–|—–Irene Grimshaw (22 Jan 1890 – 1977)

|—–|—–Lyda Grimshaw & ? Ritchie

|—–John James Grimshaw* (1 Aug 1829 – 19 Mar 1907) & Margaret Newburn (30 Jul 1839 – 4 Feb 1903)

|—–Alexander Eli Grimshaw (May 1830 – 4 Aug 1877) & Sarah Ann Thompson (1828 – 18 Nov 1891)

|—–|—–Mahala J Grimshaw* (1 Jul 1852 – 1927) & John L Lee

|—–|—–|—–Henrietta E Lee (About 1875 – )

|—–|—–|—–Eli Alexander Lee ( – About Oct 1897)

|—–|—–|—–George Leonard Lee

|—–|—–Mahala J Grimshaw* (1 Jul 1852 – 1927) & Charles T Claflin ( – Before 1910)

|—–|—–Elizabeth Rosanna Grimshaw (6 Nov 1853 – 28 Nov 1895) & John Hyland Youngs (10 Nov 1844 – )

|—–|—–|—–Elsie J Youngs (About 1871 – )

|—–|—–|—–Ida Mae Youngs (About 1875 – 15 Apr 1899)

|—–|—–|—–Sarah E Youngs (About 1878 – )

|—–|—–|—–Eddie Youngs (May 1886 – )

|—–|—–|—–Jess Youngs (Apr 1888 – )

|—–|—–|—–Harriet (“Hattie”) Youngs

|—–|—–Charlotte (Lottie) Grimshaw (14 Feb 1856 – 19 Jul 1936) & John Emmerson Troupe (21 Sep 1871 – )

|—–|—–|—–Lillian (“Bertha”) Troupe (28 Feb 1875 – 28 Jul 1934)

|—–|—–|—–Carl Henry Troupe (6 Mar 1881 – 29 Jan 1962)

|—–|—–|—–Mabel Violet Troupe (22 Feb 1887 – 24 Jan 1971)

|—–|—–|—–Harry Nelson Troupe (19 Feb 1896 – 16 May 1957)

|—–|—–Mary E J (Ellen) Grimshaw* (Oct 1857 – ) & Charles M Hodges (1872 – 1935)

|—–|—–|—–Charles M Hodges (1872 – 1935)

|—–|—–|—–Merritt Hodges

|—–|—–|—–Dorothy Hodges

|—–|—–|—–Claude Hodges

|—–|—–|—–Amelia Jennie Hodges (About 1878 – 10 Apr 1919)

|—–|—–Mary E J (Ellen) Grimshaw* (Oct 1857 – ) & Aron (Ed) Bowman (1844 – 8 Feb 1924)

|—–|—–Eli Alexander Grimshaw (1859 – 1924) & Mary Murphy (11 Jul 1859 – 28 Feb 1947)

|—–|—–|—–Eli Alexander Grimshaw (28 Aug 1879 – 1924)

|—–|—–|—–Annie May Grimshaw (26 Aug 1881 – )

|—–|—–|—–Cora Belle Grimshaw (Apr 1885 – May 1966)

|—–|—–|—–Mahala Grimshaw (Oct 1890 – )

|—–|—–|—–Albert Grimshaw (17 Mar 1894 – 17 Nov 1955)

|—–|—–Andrew B Grimshaw* (15 Jul 1862 – 20 Feb 0194) & Almira J Bloss

|—–|—–Andrew B Grimshaw* (15 Jul 1862 – 20 Feb 0194) & Mary Rosa Johnson (6 Jul 1870 – )

|—–|—–|—–Charlotte Anna Grimshaw (Jul 1891 – )

|—–|—–|—–Perle Leonard Grimshaw (4 Nov 1895 – 9 Oct 1980)

|—–|—–|—–Infant Grimshaw (Before 1900 – )

|—–|—–Anna (Annie) Grimshaw (15 Jul 1862 – 20 Jun 1900) & Henry F Minor (May 1838 – )

|—–|—–|—–Bartholomew Minor (Jun 1878 – )

|—–|—–|—–Emma Minor (Aug 1879 – )

|—–|—–|—–Frank Minor (Aug 1884 – )

|—–|—–|—–Charlotte Minor (Apr 1886 – )

|—–|—–Mary Jane (“Minnie”) Grimshaw (17 Apr 1865 – 24 Apr 1902) & Patrick F Murphy ( – 8 May 1883)

|—–|—–|—–William Murphy

|—–|—–|—–Howard Murphy

|—–|—–|—–Perle Murphy

|—–|—–William Henry Grimshaw (14 Oct 1865 – 3 Jul 1936) & Else Marie Oleson (6 Sep 1868 – )

|—–|—–|—–Ella Marie Grimshaw (7 Jul 1891 – )

|—–|—–|—–Jessie Mae Grimshaw (10 Mar 1893 – 1979)

|—–|—–|—–Agnes Evelyn Grimshaw (24 Mar 1895 – )

|—–|—–|—–William Alexander Grimshaw (14 Dec 1900 – 7 Jun 1970)

|—–|—–|—–Earl Melvin Grimshaw (17 Oct 1904 – 1 Jul 1906)

|—–|—–|—–Harold Laverne Grimshaw (6 Aug 1913 – 6 Jun 1993)

|—–|—–Emma Grimshaw (About 1868 – ) & Arthur Smith

|—–|—–|—–Mildred (“Minnie”) Smith

|—–|—–|—–Percy Calvin Smith

|—–|—–|—–Gertrude Amelia Smith

|—–|—–|—–Gretchen Smith

|—–|—–|—–Luella Smith

|—–|—–|—–Alice Smith

|—–|—–|—–Arthur Sidney Smith

|—–|—–|—–James DeWitt Smith

|—–|—–|—–William Bartholomew Smith

|—–|—–Lewis Grimshaw (About Jan 1870 – )

|—–Henrietta Grimshaw (About 1833 – )

|—–Charlotte Rosalie Grimshaw (12 May 1835 – )

|—–Eli George Grimshaw* (22 Feb 1838 – Jan 1885) & Hannah Christiana Sudds (About 1841 – )

|—–|—–Joseph Amos Grimshaw (About 1861 – )

|—–Eli George Grimshaw* (22 Feb 1838 – Jan 1885) & Sarah Elizabeth Pepper (3 Jun 1850 – 3 Sep 1911)

|—–|—–James Leonard Grimshaw (25 Feb 1870 – ) & Martini (Martha) Christensen (22 Apr 1874 – )

|—–|—–|—–Myrtle V Grimshaw (20 Aug 1896 – 4 Nov 1896)

|—–|—–|—–Louis Henry Grimshaw (20 Jan 1898 – )

|—–|—–|—–Rosie E Grimshaw (3 Jun 1901 – 13 Apr 1907)

|—–|—–|—–Eli Leonard Grimshaw (18 Oct 1903 – 10 Aug 1970)

|—–|—–|—–William Grimshaw (25 Jul 1906 – 29 Mar 1983)

|—–|—–|—–Walter James Grimshaw (2 May 1910 – 1 Aug 1910)

|—–|—–|—–Laura Louelle Grimshaw (1 Sep 1912 – 22 Jun 1976)

|—–Levi Bartholomew Grimshaw (22 Jun 1863 – ) & Catherine (About 1845 – )

|—–|—–Mary Grimshaw (About 1864 – )

Webpages of Three Children

Webpages have been prepared for three of the children of George and Charlotte (Menard) Grimshaw — John James Grimshaw (click here), Eli George Grimshaw (click here), and Alexander Eli Grimshaw (click here).

Marriage Record and George’s Baptism Record

George and Charlotte were married in St. Luc, which is a few miles southeast of Montreal. Calvin Lamb has located the records of George and Charlotte’s marriage certificate and George’s certificate of baptism. The marriage of George and Charlotte was recorded in French at St. Luc Catholic Church. Calvin Lamb has located the record and translated it as shown below (in French and then in English.)  An image of the original record is shown below.

Marriage record for George and Charlotte Grimshaw. Image courtesy of Calvin Lamb.

The record can be seen on Calvins webpage (records 18 and 19) at the following address: 

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lambs/MiscChurchRec.htm.

Saint Luc Catholic Church -1817

M contre George Grimshaw & Charlotte Menard 13

Le neuf
Septembre mil huit cent dix-sept, avec Lapprobation de heprise Roux, Diacise General de ce Diaceise, nous pritse souligne, Cure en cette Caroipe, avons rece Se muties & en sentment le marriage de George Grimshaw, laboureur, de legitime de Guilliumme Grimshaw, & d’elizabeth Lepriaah, ses pere & mere de St Armand, de la Paroisse de St. Pierre, & de Charlotte Menard, fille mineur de Jean Baptiste Menard your nalhier, & de Marie Clement ses pere & mere de cette Paroisse: Les parties ayant obtenu dispense de trois publications de bans de marriage du Dit Nepire Roux; et leur avons done le benediction neuptiale avec les ceremonies prescrites par notre mere Le Ste. Elgise, et ce en pres en a d’Etienne Chabot, suivant le pere a L’epouix, de famt Baptiste Volin, son ami, de Jean Baptiste Menard frere de Lespouse, de Joseph Richard, & d’ pleusures autres qui tous, ainsi que les epoux, ont declare ne Gavair signer, de ce requis, Section faite.

L. Martin Pere

Source:
Quebec Archives, Hull Branch, Reel: 2565, Volume 4, Folio 35, Frame: none shown. Researcher: Calvin G. Lamb, viewed 18 JL 2000.

The record in English is as follows;

Saint Luc Catholic Church
– 1817

M between George Grimshaw & Charlotte Menard 13

The ninth of September one thousand eight hundred seventeen, with the approval of ? Red, General Diacise of this Diacise,we took underline, Priest of this Parish, with mutual & with agreement the marriage of George Grimshaw, Labourer, legitimate son of William Grimshaw & Elizabeth Lepriaah, his father & mother of St. Armand, of the Parish of St. Pierre, & of Charlotte Menard, minor daughter of Jean Baptiste Menard ?, & of Marie Clement her father & mother of this parish: The parties having obtained ? of three publications of marriage bans of ?, & their having given the neuptial benedition with the prescribed ceremonies by our mother The Saint Church, & this one near Etienne Chabot, following the father of the wife, ? Baptiste Volin, his friend , of Jean Baptiste Menard brother of the wife of Joseph Richard, & of many others, as well as the spouses, declared to have signed, this request, section made.

L. Martin Pere

Source:
Quebec
Archives, Hull Branch, Reel: 2565,
Volume 4, Folio 35, Frame: none shown.
Researcher: Calvin G. Lamb, viewed 18 JL 2000.

Apparently George was baptized on the same day of his marriage to  Charlotte, perhaps as a precondition to being married in the Catholic church in St. Luc. Calvin Lamb has found the record and translated it as shown below, again in French and then English. This record can also be found on Calvins website at the address shown above.

Saint Luc Catholic Church – 1817

B de George Grimshaw 115 

Le neuf
Septembre mil huit cent dix-sept, par nous Pasteur sessigne Cure eu cette Caroisse a ete baptise George age de dix neuf ans, Fil Legitime de Guilliamme Grimshaw cultivateur, & d’Elizabeth Lepniaah ses prset & mere, de St Armand, Isle Paroisse de St Pierre. Nous en avon ete de parrain & de marraine a ete Desmoiselle Sophie Marchand qui a signe avec nous: Le pere etait absent.

Sophie Marchand

L. Martin Pere

Source: 
Quebec
Archives, Hull Branch, Reel: 2565,
Volume 4, Folio 35, Frame: none shown.
Researcher: Calvin G. Lamb, viewed 18 JL 2000.

The record in English is as follows:

Saint Luc Catholic Church – 1817

B of George Grimshaw 115

The ninth of September one thousand eight hundred seventeen, by our ? did baptise George age of nineteen years, legitimate son of William Grimshaw farmer, & of Elizabeth Lepniaah ? & mother, of St. Armand, Island Parish of St. Pierre. We have been godfather & godmother has been Miss Sophie Marchand who signed with us: His father was absent

Sophie Marchand

L. Martin Pere

Source: 
Quebec  Archives, Hull Branch, Reel: 2565,
Volume 4, Folio 35, Frame: none shown.
Researcher: Calvin G. Lamb, viewed 18 JL 2000.

An image of the original baptism record is shown below.

George’s Baptism Record. Image courtesy of Calvin Lamb.

Author’s note: It has been pointed out by Barbara Bonner that close examination of these two records shows that Elizabeth’s last name is more likely to be Zephaniah than Lepninah, as interpreted by Calvin Lamb. Both records indicate a spelling of “Zepniaah,” which is probably the best that a French-speaking clerk could do with the name “Zephaniah.” This interpretation would also be consistent with the first name of their likely oldest son, Zephaniah (see companion webpage on William and Elizabeth Grimshaw’s life in New Hampshire.)

The location of St. Luc, where George and Charlotte were married, is shown below.

Map of Montreal area showing the location of St. Luc southeast of Montreal (indicated by red “A” symbol)

Source: Google Maps

Location and Photos of Land Owned by George and Charlotte on Wolfe Island

Barbara Bonner has found records of land ownership on Wolfe Island by George and Charlotte. These records have been plotted on the “Meacham Map¹,” which is shown on a companion webpage (on George’s presumed nephew, William Grimshaw) in three parts. The easternmost segment, which shows the parcel owned by George and Charlotte is shown in Figure 5 below. The parcel apparently owned by George and Charlotte is indicated by an arrow in the image below.

Meacham map¹ of eastern tip of Wolfe Island, showing location of parcel of land apparently owned by George and Charlotte

A Google Earth image of the area on Wolfe Island where George and Charlotte had their land is shown below. Their plot would have been southwest of the white area just offshore of the island.

Barbara Bonner briefly visited the parcel of land indicated in the map in the summer of 2000 and took a few photos. Two of these photos are shown below.

Photo of home currently located on the parcel of land on Wolfe Island previously owned by George and Charlotte Menard. Note the body of water barely visible to the left of the large tree, on the left side of the photo. This body of water is the headwaters of the St. Lawrence River. Thanks to Barbara Bonner for providing this photo.

View of the same property, where George and Charlotte lived on Wolfe Island. This view is taken from the left side of the house and clearly shows the St. Lawrence River through the trees. Thanks again to Barbara Bonner for providing this picture. 

1880 U.S. Census Record Showing George Grimshaw Record

The 1880 U.S. Census includes a record showing George Grimshaw living with Robert and Alice Smith and their children in Oak Dale, Monroe County, Wisconsin as shown in a companion webpage. This record is reproduced below. It indicates that George is a widowed grandfather, age 100, who was born in New Hampshire. Terry (Grimshaw) Micks deserves credit for originally finding this record and understanding its significance, as described below.

1880 U.S. Census Record for Wisconsin from companion webpage showing George Grimshaw living in Oak Dale Wisconsin.

Census Place:	Oak Dale, Monroe, Wisconsin					WI-1
Source:	FHL Film 1255439 National Archives Film T9-1439 Page 35A
	Relation	Sex	Marr	Race	Age	Birthplace
Robert SMITH	Self	M	M	W	30	WI
Occ:	Farmer	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Alice SMITH	Wife	F	M	W	19	CANA
Fa: CANA	Mo: CANA
Carie SMITH	Dau	F	S	W	13	WI
Occ:	Servant	Fa: WI	Mo: NY
John SMITH	Son	M	S	W	12	WI
Fa: WI	Mo: NY
Adeline SMITH	Dau	F	S	W	10	WI
Fa: WI	Mo: NY
Hugh SMITH	Son	M	S	W	7	WI
Fa: WI	Mo: NY
George GRIMSHAW	GFather	M	W	W	100	NH

The original census record has been obtained from microfilm and scanned; the resulting images are shown below in the figure below. Note that George is shown as “Grandfather-in-law” rather than Grandfather. The ages of the children indicate that Alice cannot be their mother, so the children were apparently born to a prior marriage of Robert Smith. Thus it seems likely that George was the father of Robert’s previous wife (mother of the children,) who is unknown at this time.

Since George was born in about 1794, his age was probably 86, rather than the 100 shown in the record.

Image of original 1880 U. S. Census record, showing George Grimshaw (on line 7) as “Grandfather-in-law.”

An image of the right-hand side of the record for George is shown below. Note in line 7 that George’s birthplace is shown (faintly) as New Hampshire. Both his parents are shown as having been born in England. The indicated birthplace of George in New Hampshire is the best evidence currently available of his being descended from William and Elizabeth (Lepninah) Grimshaw, the only Grimshaws apparently living in that state during that timeframe. Note also that both of William’s parents are indicated as having been born in England.

Image of the same record as in Figure 7, showing George Grimshaw’s birthplace (line 7) as being in New Hampshire.

Final Resting Places of George and Charlotte Grimshaw

It is not known at this time where Charlotte (Menard) Grimshaw is buried, but it seems likely that she was interred in Canada. George apparently migrated with his sons to Wisconsin, probably after the passing of his wife. It is believed by descendants of George and Charlotte who are conducting family history research, particularly Terry (Grimshaw) Micks, that George is buried in the Oakdale, Wisconsin cemetery with two of his sons, Alexander Eli Grimshaw and Eli George Grimshaw. A photo of the probable burial site is shown below. The graveyard sign is also shown below.

Likely burial location of George Grimshaw. The plot extends from behind the bush on the left to the longer horizontal stone on the right. The grave marker of Alexander Eli Grimshaw, one of George’s sons, is the gray one to the left of the evergreen tree (the gravestone has a heavy growth of lichens at the top and the base). The graves of George Grimshaw and Eli George Grimshaw, another son, are apparently at this location but are unmarked.

Sign at the Oakdale Cemetery, Oakdale, Wisconsin. The grave marker of Alexander Eli Grimshaw can be seen below the “M” in the word “cemetery”. George is probably located somewhere to the right of Alexander’s grave marker.

Ancestor Information for Charlotte Menard from Madeleine Menard

Madeleine Menard has conducted extensive research on the family history of the Menards from whom Charlotte Menard is descended and has posted the results on a website with the following address

http://groups.msn.com/genealogiemenardditlafontaine/home

Summary ancestor information for Charlotte has been extracted and is provided below. Charlotte is a seventh generation descendant of the earliest French family member posted on Madeleine Menard’s website. This information indicates that Charlotte was married to George Grimshaw, son of William (“Guilliamme” in French) Grimshaw.

ii Charlotte Ménard. Elle a épousé Georges Grimshaw, marié(e) 9 sep 1817 à St-Luc, Québec, n. à Allemagne, (fils de Guillaume Grimshaw et Elizabeth Lepninah).

Gratitude is again expressed to Madeleine Menard for making this information available on her website.

Generations 1 and 2

Famille de Jacques Ménard dit Lafontaine et Catherine Fortier MadoMenard
7/17/2005

Anne Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 72 K MadeleineMenard 7/26/2005

Catherine Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 57 K MadeleineMenard 7/26/2005

Jean Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 832 K MadeleineMenard 7/26/2005

Jean-Baptiste Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 1008 K MadoMenard 7/21/2005

Jeanne-Françoise Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 150 K MadeleineMenard 7/26/2005

5 Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 695 K MadoMenard 7/21/2005

Marguerite Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 62 K MadeleineMenard 7/26/2005

Marie Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 240 K MadoMenard 7/18/2005

Maurice Ménard dit Lafontaine (1ère partie).doc 714 K MadeleineMenard
8/8/2005

Maurice Ménard dit Lafontaine (2ième partie).doc 757 K MadeleineMenard 8/8/2005

Thérèse Ménard dit Lafontaine.doc 36 K MadeleineMenard 7/26/2005

Generation 3

5. Louis Ménard dit Lafontaine, n. 28 jul 1662 à Trois-Rivières, Québec, baptême 28 jul 1662 à Trois-Rivières, Québec. Il a épousé Marie-Anne Février, marié(e) 12 déc 1691 à Boucherville, Québec, n. 20 jun 1676 à Boucherville, Québec, (fille de Christophe Février sieur de Lacroix et Marie Martin) baptême 22 jun 1676 à Boucherville, Québec. Louis décès: 1742 à Boucherville, Québec, sépulture 11 mai 1742 à Boucherville, Québec.

Enfant(s):

i Louis Ménard, n. 24 sep 1692 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 24 sep 1692 à Boucherville, Québec.

29. ii Marie-Anne Ménard n. 28 déc 1693.

30. iii Geneviève Ménard n. 15 jan 1696.

31. iv Marie-Rose Ménard n. 30 mai 1698.

32. v Jean-Baptiste Ménard n. 1 oct 1699.

33. vi Joseph Ménard n. 20 nov 1701.

34. vii Marie-Jeanne Ménard n. 20 jan 1704.

viii Pierre Ménard, n. 14 nov 1705 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 14 nov 1705 à Boucherville, Québec.

ix François Ménard, n. 17 jan 1708 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 19 jan 1708 à Boucherville, Québec, d. 6 jan 1711 à Boucherville, Québec, sépulture 7 jan 1711 à Boucherville, Québec.

35. x Charlotte Ménard n. 25 oct 1710.

xi Marie-Agathe Ménard, n. 25 jun 1712 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 26 jun 1712 à Boucherville, Québec, d. 14 jul 1712 à Boucherville, Québec, sépulture 15 jul 1712 à Boucherville, Québec.

36. xii Antoine Ménard n. 29 jul 1713.

xiii François Ménard, n. 9 mai 1715 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 11 mai 1715 à Boucherville, Québec, d. 14 sep 1715 à Boucherville, Québec, sépulture 15 sep 1715 à Boucherville, Québec.

37. xiv Marie-Anne Ménard n. 28 jul 1716.

38. xv Marie-Renée Ménard n. 14 mar 1719.

39. xvi René Ménard n. 2 mai 1721.

Generation 4

32. Jean-Baptiste Ménard, n. 1 oct 1699 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 1 oct 1699 à Boucherville, Québec. Il a épousé (1) Françoise Bau, marié(e) 3 fév 1722 à Boucherville, Québec, n. 1696, (fille de Jean Bau et Étiennette Loret) d. 1759, sépulture 18 jul 1759 à Chambly, Québec. Il a épousé (2) Marie-Marguerite Sansoucy, marié(e) 25 jan 1761 à Chambly, Québec, (fille de Guillaume James dit Sansoucy et Catherine-Antoinette Limousin) baptême 17 jan 1715 à Pointe-aux-Trembles, Québec. Jean-Baptiste décès: 7 déc 1759.

Enfant(s):

136. i Marie-Anne Ménard n. 14 nov 1722.

ii Marie-Renée Ménard, n. 26 mai 1724 à Boucherville, Québec, baptême 27 mai 1724 à Boucherville, Québec.

137. iii Marie-Catherine Ménard n. 20 déc 1725.

iv Marie-Jeanne Ménard, baptême 13 sep 1727 à Chambly, Québec.

v Marie-Hélène Ménard, n. 10 oct 1728 à Chambly, Québec, baptême 10 oct 1728 à Chambly, Québec.

138. vi Jean-Baptiste Amable Ménard n. 11 oct 1729.

vii Marie-Louise Ménard, n. 16 jan 1731 à Chambly, Québec, d. 1731 à Chambly, Québec, sépulture 24 jun 1731 à Chambly, Québec.

viii Gervais Joseph Ménard, n. 24 mai 1732 à Chambly, Québec, d. 21 jun 1733 à Chambly, Québec.

139. ix Joseph Ménard n. 19 jun 1733.

140. x Françoise Ménard n. 1734.

xi Joseph Amable Ménard, n. 22 nov 1735 à Chambly, Québec, baptême 22 nov 1735 à Chambly, Québec.

Generation 5

139. Joseph Ménard, n. 19 jun 1733 à Chambly, Québec. Il a épousé Marie-Jeanne Aupry dit Laramée, marié(e) 10 jan 1757 à Laprairie, Québec, n. 25 oct 1738, (fille de François Aupry dit Laramée et Marie-Jeanne Rivet).

Enfant(s):

246. i François Ménard n. 20 avr 1758.

247. ii Joseph Ménard n. 9 jun 1755.

iii Josephte Ménard. Elle a épousé Laurent Dupuis, marié(e) 4 nov 1793 à Chambly, Québec, (fils de Joseph Dupuis et Marie St-Aubin).

248. iv Julien Ménard n. 16 oct 1761.

v Marie-Françoise Ménard. Elle a épousé Jean-Baptiste Monty, marié(e) 17 fév 1794 à Chambly, Québec, (fils de Claude Monty et Marie-Anne Royer).

249. vi Louis Ménard n. 27 mai 1763.

250. vii Jean Ménard.

251. viii Jean-Baptiste Ménard n. 12 avr 1765.

ix Albert Ménard, n. 1766, baptême 20 déc 1780 à Chambly, Québec, d. 22 déc 1780 à Chambly, Québec.

x Marie-Charlotte Ménard. Elle a épousé Gabriel Brouillet, marié(e) 28 jan 1798 à Varennes, Québec, (fils de Baptiste Brouillet et Madeleine Brodeur).

252. xi Toussaint Ménard.

Generation 6

251. Jean-Baptiste Ménard, n. 12 avr 1765 à Laprairie, Québec, baptême 13 avr 1765 à Laprairie, Québec. Il a épousé Marie Clément, marié(e) 22 sep 1794 à Laprairie, Québec, (fille de Basile Clément et Marie-Charlotte Gipoulou).

Enfant(s):

i Barthelemy Ménard, n. 1795. Il a épousé Cécile Labute, marié(e) 16 jan 1821 à Windsor, Ontario, (fille de Pierre Labute et Desanges Langlois). Barthelemy décès: 11 mai 1852 à Windsor, Ontario.

ii Charlotte Ménard. Elle a épousé Georges Grimshaw, marié(e) 9 sep 1817 à St-Luc, Québec, n. à Allemagne, (fils de Guillaume Grimshaw et Elizabeth Lepninah).

iii Jean-Baptiste Ménard, n. 1 mar 1796 à Chambly, Québec, d. 13 jul 1796 à Chambly, Québec, sépulture 15 jul 1796 à Chambly, Québec.

365. iv Jean-Baptiste Ménard.

v Marie Ménard, n. 1799, d. 9 mar 1807 à Laprairie, Québec, sépulture 10 mar 1807 à Laprairie, Québec.

vi Marguerite Ménard, n. 1803, d. 4 mar 1807 à Laprairie, Québec, sépulture 5 mar 1807 à Laprairie, Québec.

vii Catherine Ménard, n. 1805 à Laprairie, Québec, d. 6 mar 1807 à Laprairie, Québec, sépulture 7 mar 1807 à Laprairie, Québec.

viii Luc Ménard, n. 1 mar 1807, d. 20 avr 1807 à Laprairie, Québec, sépulture 21 avr 1807 à Laprairie, Québec.

ix Reine Ménard, n. 1 jan 1808, d. 23 déc 1809 à Laprairie, Québec, sépulture 24 déc 1809 à Laprairie, Québec.

x François Gabriel Ménard. Il a épousé Marie Dufresne, marié(e) 18 mai 1848 à Windsor, Ontario, (fille de Nicolas Dufresne et Marianne Lafôret).

Descendants of George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s Children, Marcelina and Eli George Grimshaw

Research by Barbara Bonner, received in November 2008 and in January and February 2009, provides much interesting information on two of George and Charlotte’s children. This information is shown below as a chain of e-mails. Thanks to Barbara for providing these e-mails.

Grimshaw (what else!)

From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca) Sent: Sun 11/09/08 2:30 PM

To: Grimshaw, Thomas (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com); Terry M. Micks (bobterry@acegroup.cc)

Hi Terry & Tom:

While going back through some of my files I came across some interesting information which I received some time ago. At the time it was somewhat puzzling and I set it aside and promptly forgot about it. Recently I started doing a little checking up on the information and came up with the following.

The information received from a correspondent was about a Mahala/Mahalah Grimshaw who had married a man named John Moses. They had a son baptized on Wolfe Island supposedly at Sacred Heart church in 1846. (Im not sure about this as SC was not established until about 1854) Anyway, on the 1851 census of Wolfe Island there are a George Moses b ca 1842 and a John Moses b ca 1844. The two boys are residing in the household of George and Charlotte Grimshaw. Nothing was found for John Sr. or Mahala at that time. It is assumed that Mahala died before 1855 since John Sr. married a Catherine Crowley in Cape Vincent, NY in 1855.

John Moses jr. married Christina Sudds in 1869. They were living in Kent Co. Further information that was passed on indicated that the obit for Christina states that she was once married to Eli Grimshaw and also says that after his /_death_/ she married John Moses and he raised her /_three_/ children from her marriage to Eli. I found Christina and John on the 1881 census of Kent Co. and there are two children there with the name of Moses but who would have been born prior to the marriage of John and Christina. One is Joseph b ca 1861 and the other is Louise W. b ca 1865. It would appear that these are Grimshaw children and the third child is probably the Mary J. that you previously found Terry. Further proof of these children would probably be found in the previous census records which unfortunately arent on line and it means heading down to Queens University to see the films. I have done a little further research through the civil registration which I wont go into at the moment, however, I wanted to pass this on to you for your comments. It is possible that Mahala is a sister to George & Zephaniah, one of the three younger girls in the family of William and Elizabeth according to the 1800 census. The name Mahala appears twice in Georges family line which seems significant. It may be that we have found another family line!

Best regards,

Barbara

RE: Grimshaw (what else!)

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From: Thomas Grimshaw (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com) Sent: Sun 11/09/08 4:18 PM

To: Barb Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca); Terry Micks (bobterry@acegroup.cc)

Terry replied to a Grimshaw Message Board on Ancestry in September 2003. Does anyone know who Skye Yung might be?

From: http://grimshaworigin.org/grimshaw-immigrants-to-the-new-world/grimshaw-immigrant-indications/

Mahala Grimshaw and John Moses

Skye Yung posted the following message on the Grimshaw Message Board on Ancestry.com in September 2003:

Does anyone know the parents of George Grimshaw ? He married a Charlotte Menard. Would anyone know if he had a sister Mahala? Seeking info on a Mahala Grimshaw that married a John Moses before 1846.Mahala passed away before 1855. John Moses remarried a Catherine Crowley 1855. Family lived on /around Wolfe Island Frontenac Co Ont.

Skye

Terry Micks provided the following reply in October:

I have several Mahala’s in my Grimshaw line. I am a direct descendant of George and Charlotte. George and Charlotte’s son, Alexander has a daughter named Mahala. Alexander also has a granddaughter who was named Mahala so it would certainly seem to be a family name that may have originated with George’s generation. There are several researchers working on this particular family line. We believe George to be the son of William and Elizabeth (Lepinah?) who lived in New Hampshire prior to moving to Canada. George married Charlotte in Quebec and they settled in Wolfe Island for many years before coming to the U.S. Census records indicate that George probably had several sisters, one of whom may have been Betsy I believe, but I do not know if there is documentation of the other sisters. This is truly exciting information because it opens up a whole new avenue of research.

Mahala Grimshaw may have been the sister of George Grimshaw (m. Charlotte Menard), who is described on a companion webpage.

Thomas W. Grimshaw

1308 Shannon Oaks Trail

Austin, TX 78746

512/784-1078

thomas.w@grimshaw.com

Grimshaw

From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca) Sent: Sun 11/09/08 5:41 PM

To: Grimshaw, Thomas (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com)

Hi Tom:

I quickly went through the sites you attached. There are bits and pieces in each of them that I have in my file for Christina and John Moses. One thing I find interesting is the fact that Eli Grimshaw was supposed to have been deceased when Christina married again. There are more than one possibility that could have happened. They could have divorced, or perhaps just separated and because they ended up in different countries, they just married again whether legal or not. On the marriage registration for Christina and John, she is listed under her maiden name and not as Christina Grimshaw. This sounds like the same sort of situation with Zephaniah and his many marriages. His wife Asenath was still alive when he married Ellen Sheahan. Consider the story told by Asenath when she moved to Grey Co., that her husband had died in the American war! Anyway, would genealogy be as interesting if all our relatives were saints?

I just keep plugging away at the research. I find the Grimshaws the most interesting of my families.. I do have to once in a while tell myself to work on some of my other lines which seem to get thoroughly neglected when I get immersed in the Grimshaw family. I have updated and added to the information you now have of mine. I have been able to add a little more information to the line of John Nelson Grimshaw. After his death during the civil war, his family seemed to have disappeared and I have managed to track down two or three of his children which helps fill in a bit. And I am still adding to my file on tragic accidents.

If you feel it would be helpful, you can add my e-mail address to the William and Elizabeth site. It will possibly cause an increase in e-mail but it might also bring some further info on some of the more elusive relatives.

Best Regards,

Barbara

Re: John Moses and his Grimshaw wife

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From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca) Sent: Thu 1/15/09 12:23 PM

To: Thomas Grimshaw (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com); Terry M. Micks (bobterry@acegroup.cc)

Hi Tom and Terry:

I think I may have solved the mystery of John Moses and his Grimshaw wife. I finally took the time to check the registers of St. Mary’s R.C. Cathedral for any reference to the Moses family. As you know I was rather suspect about the baptism of John Moses in 1846 supposedly in Sacred Heart Church on Wolfe Island due to the fact that this church was not established at that time. Fortunately I did find the references to this family and there seems to have been an error with regard to the mother’s name in this particular baptism which has created some of the problem. I found the following in St. Mary’s

1845 – Moses, George, baptized August 7, 12 months old, son of John Moses and Marcelline Grimshaw. Sponsors, Fabien Jantreau and Bridget Sweeny.

1846 – Moses, John, baptized June 8, born January 13, son of John Moses and Mahaly Grimshaw of Long Island. Sponsors, Thomas Germain and Julia Besain

1847 – Mrs. Marceline Moses, interred February 18, aged 21 years of Long Island. Witness, her husband, John Moses and Martin Staley.

These records seem to indicate that the entry for John’s baptism has an incorrect Christian name given for his mother. I would therefore assume that these entries refer to Marceline, daugther of George Grimshaw and Charlotte Menard. Her age of 21 at death fits in with a possible year of birth for her of 1847. Your comments would be appreciated.

Barbara 🙂

Re: Grimshaw (what else!)

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From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca) Sent: Sun 2/01/09 1:34 PM

To: Thomas Grimshaw (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com)

Hi Tom:

I have been doing a bit of research on the family of John Moses and Marceline Grimshaw and have found a few more things to pass on. I thought I might just ramble on a bit about what I found and what I have gleaned from other information passed on to me. I hope you can make some sense of it.

-John and Marceline had 2 sons Joseph and John. After Marcelines death John remarried to Catherine Crowley and had a daughter Catherine apparently born on Wolfe Island.

-Eli George Grimshaw married Hanna Christine Sudds ca 1860. They had 3 children, Joseph born ca 1861 on Wolfe Island (bapt. Found), Louisa Ann, born ca 1863 (possibly WI or Kingston), Mary Jane b ca 1865 (possibly WI or Kingston). Eli and Hanna must have separated sometime after Mary Janes birth. Eli remarried to Elizabeth Sarah Ann Pepper and had son, James Leonard born ca 1869 in NY. In the meantime, Hanna Christina remarried to John Moses, son of John and Marceline, August 29, 1869 in Kingston. John Moses died January 21, 1918 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON aged 73 (In an old e-mail from Skye (2003) she states that she found Christinas obit and it does state that she was once married to Eli Grimshaw and when her husband passed she remarried to John Moses and he raised her three children from her marriage to Eli. – unfortunately I never found out where she found this obit)

-It would appear that John Moses and Hanna Christina Sudds did not have any children, however, they did raise Hanna Christinas children from her marriage to Eli Grimshaw. On all records that I have found, the three children use the surname Moses, and on marriage records, they list parents as John and Christina. – Eli is not mentioned at all.

-Joseph (Grimshaw) Moses married Susan Jane Garvey, April 18, 1882, in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON. They had a family of at least 5 children, Charlot, John, George, Alfred Hyram, and Shephard. Shephard enlisted in the Canadian army in WWI. Shephard was found in 1920 living in Michigan with wife Amy and son Dennis aged 1` month, born Michigan. Alfred Hyram married Emily Schram, January 19, 1916 in London, Middlesex Co., ON.

-Louisa Ann (Grimshaw) Moses married George Wilson, January 1, 1879 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON. I have nothing further on this couple so far.

-Mary Jane (Grimshaw) Moses married William Slocum January 22, 1877 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON. Not much else found on this couple. There is a death of a child, William John Slocum, 3 Dec. 1879 aged 2, a possible son of this marriage. By 1894, Mary Jane is in Michigan, and married John Diggan (as per information from Terry). They are living in Wayne Co. Michigan in 1900.

I havent yet entered this information into my genealogy program but wanted to pass on these bits and pieces for your information – hope you find it interesting.

Regards,

Barbara

The information above from Barbara allows the following expansion of the descendant chart for George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s children, Marcelina and Eli George as follows:

George Grimshaw (About 1794 – ) & Charlotte Menard (About 1795 – )

|—–Christiana Grimshaw (25 Dec 1825 – ) & John Egner

|—–|—–Sarah Ann Egner (16 Feb 1848 – )

|—–Marcelina Grimshaw (About Jan 1828 – ) & John Moses

|—–|—–George Moses (About 1844 – ?)

|—–|—–John Moses Jr (13 Jan 1846 – 21 Jan 1918, Wallaceburg, ON) & Hannah Christiana Sudds Grimshaw. Married 29 Aug 1869.

|—–John James Grimshaw* (1 Aug 1829 – 19 Mar 1907) & Mary Ann Mahoney (About 1822 – )

|—–John James Grimshaw* (1 Aug 1829 – 19 Mar 1907) & Margaret Newburn (30 Jul 1839 – 4 Feb 1903)

|—–Henrietta Grimshaw (About 1833 – )

|—–Charlotte Rosalie Grimshaw (12 May 1835 – )

|—–Eli George Grimshaw* (22 Feb 1838 – Jan 1885) & Hannah Christiana Sudds (About 1841 – ). Married about 1860.

|—–|—–Joseph Amos Grimshaw Moses# (About 1861, Wolfe Island, ON – ) & Susan Jane Garvey. Married 18 Apr 1882, Wallaceburg, ON.

|—–|—–|—–Charlot Moses

|—–|—–|—–John Moses

|—–|—–|—–George Moses

|—–|—–|—–Alfred Hyram Moses & Emily Schram. Married 29 Jan 1916

|—–|—–|—–Shepard Moses & Amy ?

|—–|—–Louisa Ann Grimshaw Moses# (About 1863 – ) & George Wilson. Married 1 Jan 1879, Wallaceburg, On

|—–|—–Mary Jane Grimshaw Moses#* (About 1865 – ?) & William Slocum. Married 22 Jan 1877, Wallaceburg, On.

|—–|—–Mary Jane Grimshaw Moses#* (About 1865 – ?) & John Diggan

|—–Eli George Grimshaw* (22 Feb 1838 – Jan 1885) & Sarah Elizabeth Pepper (3 Jun 1850 – 3 Sep 1911)

|—–|—–James Leonard Grimshaw (25 Feb 1870 – ) & Martini (Martha) Christensen (22 Apr 1874 – )

|—–Levi Bartholomew Grimshaw (22 Jun 1863 – ) & Catherine (About 1845 – )

|—–|—–Mary Grimshaw (About 1864 – )

#Took step-father, John Moses, surname

Interestingly, John Moses, son of John and Marcelina (Grimshaw) Moses married his aunt, Hannah Christiana Sudds Grimshaw (former wife of Eli George Grimshaw) and raised his three cousins as his children. This connection is confirmed in a subsequent train of e-mails shown below.

Thomas Grimshaw wrote:

Barbara,

This is complicated!

So John Moses Jr. raised the three children of Eli Grimshaw, who was the brother of his mother Marcelina, and therefore his uncle, I guess, correct? That is, he raised his cousins as his children? Kinda weird…

Anyway, too bad Marcelina wasn’t Mahala and a sister of George, thus accounting for another of William’s children….

Best,

Tom

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:22:51 -0500

From: barbb@sympatico.ca

To: thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Grimshaw (what else!)

Tom:

It is a rather complicated arrangement – including the fact that John married his ‘aunt-in-law’. I think I have that right but it is late! I wonder if Eli and Christina divorced or if they just said ‘what the heck’ since both were in different countries. On the marriage registration for John and Christina, she is listed as ‘single’. I’ve wondered the same thing about Zephaniah and Asenath, if they divorced before he married Ellen Sheean. Aren’t our ancestors interesting?

Too bad we didn’t discover another sister but at least we now we know what happened to Marceline

Barbara

Thomas Grimshaw wrote:

Barb,

I tried to find an old record from when I was getting started in this that indicates that George had a sister Mahala. But no luck finding it so far.

Do you think that’s true?

Best,

Tom

Thomas W. Grimshaw

1308 Shannon Oaks Trail Austin, TX 78746 512/784-1078 thomas.w@grimshaw.com

Re: Grimshaw (what else!)‏

From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca)

Sent: Mon 2/02/09 10:41 AM

To: Thomas Grimshaw (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com)

Tom:

I certainly think it is a possibility that there was a Mahalah in the original family. The name appears about 3 times in my records, although always in George’s line. That might indicate that George had a sister by that name – or it might come from Charlotte’s family, although, it doesn’t seem to be (in my mind) a French sounding name OR they could just have liked the name! I certainly would like to put names to the 3 daughters and 1 son which still don’t seem to be identified in that original family. Nothing further has been found for the sister Betsy who married William Blair. More than one William Blair appears in the early census records but without the names of the other members in the family it’s impossible to follow the line. By the 1850 census when all names appear, either William or Betsy could be deceased and I have never found anything that seemed relevant. I belong to the New England Historic Genealogical Society and they have a lot of records on line for members, however, I have never come across anything on the family. Maybe I should contact them to try and find out where would be the best place to search for records for the area they lived in. It might mean a visit to the area or hiring a researcher which might be worth while if records could be found. I have searched through any early papers that I have from the beginning of my research and I have found nothing that gives any reference to an early Mahalah. I guess we will just have to keep digging.

Regards,

Barb

Descendants of George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s Child, Christina Grimshaw

In July 2010, Barbara Grimshaw communicated that she had researched a good deal more information on Christina (Christiana?) Grimshaw. The two emails shown below provide a good summary of Barbara’s findings.

Re: Grimshaw

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From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca)

Sent: Fri 7/02/10 12:55 PM

To: Grimshaw, Thomas (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com)

Hi Tom:

Hope all is well with you. Things seem to be a bit hectic here, however, I can always find time to do some research. I keep thinking it is time to try and organize all my information into some form that others can understand but there always seems to be another lead to chase.

I have been following up George Grimshaw’s daughter Christina who first married John Egner and had 3 daughters, two of whom survived infancy namely Charlotte and Sarah Ann. I had never been able to find anything further on her until just recently when I discovered that, after John Egner died, she remarried and had additional children. John died between 1851 and 1861 although I don’t have the exact date. About 1861 Christina remarried to Robert Andrew Horne and subsequently had at least 4 more children all born in Ontario, Emma, Edgar, Elizabeth and Alice. By 1880 the family is living in Wisconsin. I haven’t so far been able find anything further on them in that area. Christina and John Egner’s daughter Charlotte born ca 1844 married Peter Greenwood probably on Wolfe Island and had had 8 children all born in Ontario. I have found additional information on several of them. A death record for Christina’s husband Peter Greenwood has been found but not for Christina. I am attaching a descendant’s chart for what I have found so far on Christina for your information. If you want any further detail let me know. To date I have been unable to find anything further on Christina’s daughter Sarah Ann Egner but will keep trying!

Best regards,

Barbara

Re: Grimshaw

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From: Barbara Bonner (barbb@sympatico.ca)

Sent: Mon 7/05/10 12:24 PM

To: Thomas Grimshaw (thomas_grimshaw@hotmail.com)

Hi Tom:

I finally have an opportunity to sit down at the computer again after having family visiting for the weekend. I think I have all the bits and pieces entered in the system for Christina Grimshaw’s family.

I was just reading over my e-mail to you and notice that I inadvertently referred to Peter Greenwood’s wife as Christina which should, of course, have been Charlotte. A death record was found for Peter but not for Charlotte.

I am sending the descendant’s chart for Christina again which includes a couple of updates that I have since found. I have been trying to come up with some easy way to send the additional information which includes sources and notes on my research. There doesn’t seem to be any way of doing that other than a genealogy report which includes everything. So that is attached also.

Feel free to post what additional information you think would be of interest on George & Charlotte’s web page. There is no information on any living person. I am always interested in any additional information that anyone might have that would add to (or correct) what I have been able to discover.

Hope everything comes through to you OK. Good luck!

Regards

Barbara

Barbara provided the descendant chart shown below as well as more detailed descendant information below the chart.

1 Christina Grimshaw b: 25 December 1825 in Probably Hinchinbrook Twsp., Huntingdon Co. QC d: Unknown in Unknown

.. +John Egner b: Abt. 1788 in U.S.A. m: Abt. 1843 in Possibly Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON d: Bet. 1851 – 1861 in Probably Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

…….. 2 Charlotte Egner b: Abt. 1844 in Possibly Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON d: Unknown in Unknown

………… +Peter Greenwood b: Abt. 1835 in QC m: Abt. 1860 in Probably Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON d: 23 January 1896 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON

……………… 3 Mary Greenwood b: 04 October 1861 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

…………………. +Henry Ledford b: 20 November 1849 in Kingston, Frontenac Co., ON m: 09 October 1876 in Woodstock, Oxford Co., ON

………………………. 4 Charlotte May Ledford b: 04 September 1881 in West Oxford, Oxford Co., ON

……………… 3 Henrietta Greenwood b: 04 July 1864 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

…………………. +John Todd b: Abt. 1859 in ON m: 14 April 1880 in Ingersol, Oxford Co., ON

………………………. 4 Robert William Todd b: 29 June 1881 in West Oxford, Oxford Co., ON

………………………. 4 Nina Todd b: Abt. 1890 in ON

……………… 3 Annie Greenwood b: 11 July 1868 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

…………………. +Nelson Bouk b: 14 April 1852 in Niagara, ON m: 09 May 1883 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON

………………………. 4 George Herbert Bouk b: 14 March 1887 in Wallacburg, Kent Co., ON

………………………. 4 Ethel Bouk b: 28 July 1891 in Essex, Essex Co., ON d: 05 February 1936 in Harrow, Essex Co., ON

………………………….. +Thomas Edward Cade b: 13 February 1885 in Brooke, Lambton Co., ON m: 27 March 1907 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON d: 30 December 1911 in St. Thomas, Elgin Co., ON

……………………………….. 5 Ann Marguerite Cade b: 31 January 1909 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON d: 08 October 1910 in St. Thomas, Elgin Co., ON

………………………. *2nd Husband of Ethel Bouk:

………………………….. +Rene O. Trudell b: Abt. 1889 in Sandwich, Essex Co., ON m: 01 September 1913 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON

……………… *2nd Husband of Annie Greenwood:

…………………. +Fallowfield Ellison b: 1853 in Westmoreland Co., UK m: 19 August 1913 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON

……………… 3 William Greenwood b: Abt. 1873 in ON

……………… 3 Maud Greenwood b: Abt. 1875 in Oxford Co., ON

…………………. +George Taylor b: Abt. 1866 in St. Thomas, Elgin Co., ON m: 28 October 1890 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON

………………………. 4 William George Taylor b: 25 September 1891 in Colchester North, Essex Co., ON

………………………….. +Margaret E. Wentland b: 1897 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL m: 06 November 1915 in Donald, Mackinac Co., MI

……………………………….. 5 Eleanor C. Taylor b: Abt. 1917 in MI

……………………………….. 5 Mildred G. Taylor b: Abt. 1921 in MI

……………………………….. 5 Evelyn M. Taylor b: Abt. 1925 in MI

………………………. 4 Otto Taylor b: 27 September 1895 in Bad Axe, Huron Co., MI d: 26 June 1976 in Saginaw, Saginaw Co., MI

………………………….. +Alvina Vallier b: 08 March 1897 in Garfield Twsp., Mackinac Co. MI m: 27 July 1915 in Engardine, Mackinac Co., MI d: 05 February 1994 in St. Petersburg, Pinellas Co, FL

……………………………….. 5 Roy G. Taylor b: Abt. 1917 in MI

……………………………….. 5 Irene C. Taylor b: Abt. 1920 in MI

……………………………….. 5 Ada M. Taylor b: Abt. 1922 in MI

………………………. 4 Nettie Taylor b: 14 July 1898 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co. MI d: November 1979 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI

………………………….. +Albert McCain b: 25 July 1893 in Traverse City, Traverse Co., MI m: 30 March 1914 in Engadine, Mackinac Co., MI d: October 1967 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI

……………………………….. 5 June McCain b: Abt. 1917 in MI

……………………………….. 5 George McCain b: Abt. 1919 in MI

……………………………….. 5 Victor McCain b: 10 August 1920 in MI d: November 1985 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI

……………………………….. 5 Joy McCain b: Abt. 1925 in MI

……………… 3 Edward John Greenwood b: 27 October 1877 in West Oxford, Oxford Co., ON d: 09 February 1920 in Walkerville, Essex Co., ON

…………………. +Florence Corham b: Abt. 1881 in ON m: 09 April 1900 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI d: 06 May 1918 in Bellvue, Essex Co., ON

………………………. 4 William Edward Greenwood b: 1901 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co. MI

………………………….. +Leola Ina Neville m: 03 August 1919 in London, Middlesex Co., ON

………………………. 4 Walter Greenwood b: September 1902 in MI

………………………. 4 Winnifred Grace Greenwood b: 1907 in MI d: 03 January 1907 in Garfield Twsp.,Mackinac Co., MI

………………………. 4 Arthur Greenwood b: Abt. October 1907 in MI

………………………. 4 Herbert James Greenwood b: 02 August 1910 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON

……………… *2nd Wife of Edward John Greenwood:

…………………. +Alice O’Hara b: Abt. 1886 in Sandwich East Twsp., Essex Co., ON m: 24 August 1918 in Sandwich, Essex Co., ON

……………… 3 Herbert Greenwood b: 16 April 1881 in West Oxford, Oxford Co., ON d: 29 July 1881 in Oxford Co., ON

……………… 3 Corey Greenwood b: 27 March 1885 in Wallacburg, Kent Co., ON

…….. 2 Sarah Ann Egner b: 16 February 1848 in Probably Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON d: Unknown in Unknown

…….. 2 Catherine Egner b: Abt. 1852 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON d: 1852 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

*2nd Husband of Christina Grimshaw:

.. +Robert Andrew Horne b: Abt. 1808 in Upper Canada m: Abt. 1861 in Probably Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

…….. 2 Emma Horne b: in ON

………… +Charles Thomas Standish b: Abt. 1848 in GA m: 06 October 1874 in Chatham Twsp., Kent Co., ON

…….. 2 Edgar Horne b: in ON

…….. 2 Elizabeth Horne b: in ON

…….. 2 Alice Horne b: in ON

The above summary descendant chart is expanded with additional detail below provided by Barbara Bonner.

Descendants of Christina Grimshaw

Generation 1

1. Christina Grimshaw-1 was born on 25 December 1825 in Probably Hinchinbrook Twsp., Huntingdon Co. QC[1]. She died on Unknown in unknown.

Notes for Christina Grimshaw:

General Notes:

BAPTISM: Reference: Missionary records of the Catholic church deposited at Hinchinbrooke

Christinana, born 25 Dec., 1825 bapt. 8 Nov., 1826, dau. of George Grinshaw and Charlotte Minors

CENSUS

John and Christina and family on 1852 census of Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

By the 1871 census Christina is remarried to Robert Horne and the family is living In Chatham Township, Kent Co., Ontario

IN 1880, Christina and Robert Horne are living in Oakdale, Monroe Co., Wisconsin in close proximity to Sarah Grimshaw, widow of Alexander Eli, Christina’s brother.

Robert Andrew Horne was born about 1808 in Upper Canada[2].

Notes for Robert
Andrew Horne:

General Notes:

· Robert was previously married to Rebecca and had several children living on Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON, on 1851/2 Census

· There is a child William living with Robert and Christina on both the 1871 census of Kent Co., Ontario and the 1880 census of Monroe Co., Wisconsin. His date of birth is estimated as ca 1854. This date would seem to predate the marriage of Robert and Christina. It is not evident as to the identity of his parents. He has not been entered in the system Robert Andrew Horne and Christina Grimshaw were married about 1861 in Probably Wolfe Island, Fronteanc Co., ON[3]. They had the following children:

i. Emma Horne was born about 1861 in ON[2]. She married Charles Thomas Standish on 06 October 1874 in Chatham, Kent Co., ON[4].

ii. Edgar Horne was born about 1864 in ON[2].

iii. Elizabeth Horne was born about 1867 in ON[2].

iv. Alice Horne was born about 1871 in ON[2].

John Egner was born about 1788 in U.S.A.[2]. He died between 1851-1861 in unknown[3].

John Egner and Christina Grimshaw were married about 1843 in Probably Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co. ON[3]. They had the following children:

2. i. Charlotte Egner was born about 1844 in Possibly Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[2]. She married Peter Greenwood about 1860 in Probably Wolfe Island, Fronteanc Co., ON[3]. She died on Unknown in unknown.

ii. Sarah Ann Egner was born on 16 February 1848 in ON[1]. She died on Unknown in nknown.

Notes for Sarah Ann
Egner:

General Notes:

BAPTISM: Reference: St. Mary’s Roman Catholic Cathedral, Kingston, Frontenac Co., ON

Egner, Sarah Ann, born Feb. 16, 1848, bapt. March 4, 1849 dau. of John Egner and Christina Grimshaw, sponsors Leo Charlebois and Locadie Jenard.

CENSUS:

1852 Census Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

With family – Serann age 4

iii. Catherine Egner was born about 1852 in ON[5]. She died in 1852 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[6].

Notes for Catherine
Egner:

General Notes:

DEATH: Reference: Interment records, Sacred Heart R.C. Church, Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

* Interred

Catherine A. Egner, 4 months old. Present – Alexander Grimshaw

Generation 2

2. Charlotte Egner-2 (Christina-1) was born about 1844 in Possibly Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[2].

She died on Unknown in unknown.

Notes for Charlotte Egner:

General Notes:

CENSUS:

1852 Census Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON

With family – Charlott age 8

BAPTISM: Reference: Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON, Sacred Heart R.C. Church

Boisvert, Marie, born 04 October, 1861, baptized, 08 June 1862

Parents: Pierre Boisvert and Charlot Egnor. Sponsors, Charles Boisvert and Margarite Turcotte.

M. Stafford, Priest

Peter Greenwood was born about 1835 in QC, (Lower Canada)[2]. He died on 23 January 1896 in

Windsor, Essex Co., ON[7].

Notes for Peter Greenwood:

General Notes:

DEATH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Windsor, Essex Co., 1896 #08211

Peter Greenwood and Charlotte Egner were married about 1860 in Probably Wolfe Island, Fronteanc Co., ON[3]. They had the following children:

3. i. Mary Greenwood was born on 04 October 1861 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[1].

4. ii. Henrietta Greenwood was born on 04 July 1864 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[1]. She married John Todd on 14 April 1880 in Ingersoll, Oxford Co., ON[4].

5. iii. Annie Greenwood was born on 11 July 1868 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[1]. She married Nelson Bouk on 09 May 1883 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[8].

iv. William Greenwood was born about 1873 in ON[2].

6. v. Maud Greenwood was born about 1875 in Oxford Co., ON[9]. She married George Taylor on 28 October 1890 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[9].

7. vi. Edward John Greenwood was born on 30 November 1877 in West Oxford, Oxford Co., ON[10]. He married Florence Corham on 09 April 1900 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI[11]. He died on 09 February 1920 in Walkerville, Essex Co., ON[12].

vii. Herbert Greenwood was born on 16 April 1881 in West Oxford Twsp., Oxford Co., ON[13].

He died on 29 July 1881 in Oxford Co., ON[14].

Notes for Herbert Greenwood:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, West Oxford, Oxford Co., 1881 #023432

DEATH: Reference: Oxford Co., ON, Sweaburg Union Cemetery

Herbert son of Peter and Charlotte Gre[e]nwood died July 29, 1881 aged 3 mos and 18 ds.

viii. Corey Greenwood was born on 27 March 1885 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[13].

Notes for Corey Greenwood:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Wallaceburg, Kent Co., 1885 #015753

Generation 3

3. Mary Greenwood-3 (Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 04 October 1861 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[1].

Henry Ledford was born on 20 November 1849 in Kingston, Frontenac Co., ON[1].

Notes for Henry Ledford:

General Notes:

PARENTS: John Ledford and Catherine Lyons

BAPTISM: Reference: Kingston, Frontenac Co., ON, St. Mary’s R.C. Cathedral

On the 23rd day of June 1850, I the undersigned priest have baptized Henry born the 20th of November last of the Lawful marriage of john Ledfort and Catherine Lyons. Sponsors, Patrick Lyons and Mary Lyons, John Farrell Henry Ledford and Mary Greenwood married. They had the following children:

i. Charlotte May Ledford was born on 04 September 1881 in West Oxford Twsp., Oxford Co., ON[13].

Notes for Charlotte May Ledford:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference:: Civil Registration, ON, West Oxford, Oxford Co., 1881 #023452

4. Henrietta Greenwood-3 (Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 04 July 1864 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[1].

Notes for Henrietta Greenwood:

General Notes:

BAPTISM: Reference: Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON, Sacred Heart R.C. Church

Henrietta Greenwood, born 04 July, 1864, baptized, 23 July, 1864.

Parents: Peter and Mary Charlot

John Todd was born about 1859 in ON[2].

Notes for John Todd:

General Notes:

PARENTS: David and Susan Todd

John Todd and Henrietta Greenwood were married on 14 April 1880 in Ingersoll, Oxford Co., ON[4].

They had the following children:

i. Robert William Todd was born on 29 June 1881 in West Oxford Twsp., Oxford Co., ON[15].

Notes for Robert
William Todd:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, West Oxford, Oxford Co., 1881 #023438

ii. Nina Todd was born about 1890 in ON[2].

5. Annie Greenwood-3 (Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 11 July 1868 in Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON[1].

Notes for Annie Greenwood:

General Notes:

BAPTISM: Reference: Wolfe Island, Frontenac Co., ON, Sacred Heart R.C. Church

Anne Greenwood, born 11 July 1868, baptized 26 July,1868

Parents: Peter [Greenwood] and Charlotte Egner

Nelson Bouk was born on 14 April 1852 in ON[16].

Notes for Nelson Bouk:

General Notes:

PARENTS: George and Eliza Bouk

Nelson Bouk and Annie Greenwood were married on 09 May 1883 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[8].

They had the following children:

i. George Herbert Bouk was born on 14 March 1887 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[7].

Notes for George Herbert Bouk:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Wallaceburg, Kent Co., 1887 #015186

8. ii. Ethel Bouk was born on 08 July 1891 in Essex, Essex Co., ON[14]. She married Thomas Edward Cade on 27 March 1907 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON[9]. She died on 05 February 1936 in Harrow, Essex Co., ON[17].

Fallowfield Ellison was born in 1853 in Westmoreland Co. UK[18].

Notes for Fallowfield
Ellison:

General Notes:

PARENTS: Thomas Ellison and Jane Fallowfield

BIRTH: Reference: Index to Civil Registration, UK, Births

Ellison, Fallowfield, Reg. Dist. E. Ward, Vol. 4, Page 48, 2nd Qtr. 1853 ( E. Ward – Westmoreland Co., UK)

Fallowfield Ellison and Annie Greenwood were married on 19 August 1913 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON[4]. They had no children.

6. Maud Greenwood-3 (Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born about 1875 in Oxford Co., ON[9].

George Taylor was born about 1866 in St. Thomas, Elgin Co., ON[9].

Notes for George
Taylor:

General Notes:

PARENTS: W.C. Taylor and Mary Ann Taylor

George Taylor and Maud Greenwood were married on 28 October 1890 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[9]. They had the following children:

9. i. William George Taylor was born on 25 September 1891 in Colchester North, Essex Co., ON[14]. He married Margaret E. Wentland on 06 November 1915 in Donald, Mackinac Co., MI[11].

10. ii. Otto Taylor was born on 27 September 1895 in Bad Axe, Huron Co., MI[11, 19]. He married Alvina Vallier on 27 July 1915 in Engardine, Mackinac Co., MI[11]. He died on 26 June 1976 in Saginaw, Saginaw Co., MI[19].

11. iii. Nettie Taylor was born on 14 January 1898 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI[19, 20]. She married Albert McCain on 28 October 1890 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[9]. She died in November 1979 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI[19].

7. Edward John Greenwood-3 (Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 30 November 1877 in West Oxford, Oxford Co., ON[10]. He died on 09 February 1920 in Walkerville, Essex Co., ON[12].

Notes for Edward John Greenwood:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, West Oxford, Oxford Co., 1877, #21661

DEATH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON , Walkerville, Essex Co., 1920 #014960

· Date of birth given on death certificate as November 5, 1875, does not agree with birth date from the birth registration.

· Attending physician: Dr. R. B. Robson, Walkerville, ON

Florence Corham was born on 12 December 1883 in Tudor, Limerick & Cashel Twsps. Hastings Co., ON[14]. She died on 06 May 1918 in Bellvue, Essex Co., ON[12].

Notes for Florence Corham:

General Notes:

PARENTS: Walter Corham and Fanny Rosebush

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Tudor, Limerick and Cashel Twsps., Hastings Co., 1884

#012035

· Name appears to be Carham on Birth Registration.

DEATH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Windsor, Essex Co., 1918 #016279

Attending Physician: Dr. J.P. Austin, Windsor

Edward John Greenwood and Florence Corham were married on 09 April 1900 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI[11]. They had the following children:

i. William Edward Greenwood was born in 1902 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI[20].

Notes for William Edward Greenwood:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Michigan Births, 1867 – 1902 familysearch.org.

Name: William Greenwood

Birth date: […] 23, 1902

Birthplace: Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa, Michigan

Gender: Male

Father’s name: Edward Edward [sic]

Birthplace: Canada

Mother’s Name: Florence Edward [sic]

Birthplace: Canada

Film No.: 2363037, Digital Folder No.: 4208771

Image No.: 554

Reference: No.: Item 1 p 498

· Record in very poor condition. Page torn so that month of birth is not there.

Parents’ names are incorrectly listed.

ii. Walter Greenwood was born about September 1902 in MI[2].

iii. Winnifred Grace Greenwood was born in 1907 in MI[21]. She died on 03 January 1907 in Garfield Twsp., Mackinac Co., MI[21].

iv. Arthur Greenwood was born in October 1907 in MI[2].

v. Herbert James Greenwood was born on 02 August 1910 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON[22].

Notes for Herbert James Greenwood:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, “Statement of Birth” May 8, 1957, at Oakville, York Co., ON, 501725

Place of birth given as Windsor, Essex Co., ON

Statement approved, August 8, 1957, Reg. No. 001955

Alice O’Hara was born about 1886 in Sandwich East Twsp., Essex Co., ON[5].

Notes for Alice O’Hara:

General Notes:

PARENTS: William and Mary O’Hara

MARRIAGE: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Sandwich, Essex Co., 1918, #008586

Witnesses: Peter O’Hara, Petite Cote, Ont.

Alvena Sorel, Ojibway, Ont.

Clergy: H. P. Westgate, Sandwich, Ontario, Church of England

· After the death of Edward, Alice remarried to John Henry Campbell, January 14, 1921 in

Walkerville, Essex Co., ON

Edward John Greenwood and Alice O’Hara were married on 24 August 1918 in Sandwich, Essex Co.,

ON[9]. They had no children.

Generation 4

8. Ethel Bouk-4 (Annie-3, Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 08 July 1891 in Essex, Essex Co., ON[14]. She died on 05 February 1936 in Harrow, Essex Co., ON[17].

Notes for Ethel Bouk:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Essex, Essex Co., 1891 # 012776

DEATH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Harrow, Essex Co., 1936 #014326

Thomas Edward Cade was born on 13 February 1885 in Brooke, Lambton Co., ON[15]. He died on 30 December 1911 in St. Thomas Elgin Co., ON[14].

Notes for Thomas Edward Cade, husband of Ethel Bouk

PARENTS: George Edward Cade and Alice Monro

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Brooke, Lambton Co., 1885 #016444

DEATH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, St. Thomas, Elgin Co., 1911 #011711

Thomas Edward Cade and Ethel Bouk were married on 27 March 1907 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON[9].

They had the following children:

i. Ann Marguerite Cade was born on 31 January 1909 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON[14]. She died on 30 December 1911 in St. Thomas, Elgin Co., ON[14].

Notes for Ann Marguerite Cade, daughter of Thomas Edward Cade and Ethel Bouk

Delete parents names plus the birth and death references – these belong to her father Thomas. The correct references are:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Windsor, Essex Co., 1909 #016904

DEATH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, St. Thomas, Elgin Co., 1910 #010931

Rene O. Trudell was born about 1889 in Sandwich, Essex Co., ON[5].

Rene O. Trudell and Ethel Bouk were married on 01 September 1913 in Windsor, Essex Co., ON[9].

They had no children.

9. William George Taylor-4 (Maud-3, Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 25 September 1891 in Colchester North, Essex Co., ON[14].

Notes for William George Taylor:

General Notes:

BIRTH: Reference: Civil Registration, ON, Colchester North, Essex Co., 1891 #102737

MILITARY: Reference: WWI US Draft Registration Card,June 5, 1917

William George Taylor, age 25, Engadine, Mich., Born, Sept. 20, 1892, Camp [Pariner], Canada, Naturalized citizen. Occupation, Section hand on R.R. Soo Lines Ry. Co., Married with wife and one child. Physical description, Height, short, Build, medium, Eyes, brown, Hair, brown, not bald.

· Date of birth on draft registration card does not agree with birth registration.

Margaret E. Wentland was born in 1897 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL[11].

William George Taylor and Margaret E. Wentland were married on 06 November 1915 in Donald,

Mackinac Co., MI[11]. They had the following children:

i. Eleanor Taylor was born about 1917 in MI[2].

ii. Mildred G. Taylor was born about 1921 in MI[2].

iii. Evelyn M. Taylor was born about 1925 in MI[2].

10. Otto Taylor-4 (Maud-3, Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 27 September 1895 in Bad Axe, Huron

Co., MI[11, 19]. He died on 26 June 1976 in Saginaw, Saginaw Co., MI[19].

Notes for Otto Taylor:

General Notes:

MILITARY: Reference: WWI US Draft Registration Card, June 5, 1917

Otto Taylor, age 23, 725 Garden Ave., Manistique, Mich., born, Sept. 27, 1893, Bad Axe, MIchigan.

Occupation, millwork, [-]andle Factory Co., Manistique, married with a wife and one child.

Physical description, Height, Medium, Build, slim, Eyes, Brown, Hair, black.

· Birth date on draft registration card does not agree with U.S. Social Security Index.

Alvina Vallier was born on 08 March 1896 in Garfield Twsp., Mackinac Co., MI[11, 19]. She died on 05

February 1994 in St. Petersburg, Pinellas Co., FL[19].

Otto Taylor and Alvina Vallier were married on 27 July 1915 in Engardine, Mackinac Co., MI[11]. They had the following children:

i. Roy G. Taylor was born about 1917 in MI[2].

ii. Irene C. Taylor was born about 1920 in MI[2].

iii. Ada M. Taylor was born about 1922 in MI[2].

11. Nettie Taylor-4 (Maud-3, Charlotte-2, Christina-1) was born on 14 January 1898 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI[19, 20]. She died in November 1979 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI[19].

Albert McCain was born on 25 July 1894 in Traverse City, Grand Traverse Co., MI[11, 19]. He died in

October 1967 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI[19].

Notes for Albert McCain:

General Notes:

PARENTS: Ed[i]son. McCain and Minnie Riley

MILITARY: Reference: WWI US Draft Registration Card, June 5, 1917

Albert E. McCain, age 24, Marquette, Mich., born, July 25, 1893 in Traverse City, Michigan.Occupation, Railroad round house, DSS&O Ry, Marquette, Mich., married with wife and one child. Physical description, Height, medium, Build, slender, Eyes, blue, Hair, brown, Albert McCain and Nettie Taylor were married on 28 October 1890 in Wallaceburg, Kent Co., ON[9].

They had the following children:

i. June McCain was born about 1917 in MI[2].

ii. George McCain was born in 1919 in MI[2].

iii. Victor McCain was born on 10 August 1920 in MI[19]. He died in November 1985 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI[19].

iv. Joy McCain was born about 1925 in MI[2].

Sources

1 Church Baptismal record.

2 Estimated from census records.

3 Estimate only.

4 Civil Registration, ON Marriage

5 Estimated from interment record.

6 Church Interment Record.

7 Civil Registration, ON Birth.

8 Civil Registration, ON, Marriage

9 Civil Registration, ON Marriage

10 Civil Registration, ON Birth for son Benjamin.

11 Michigan Marriages 1822 – 1995 familysearch.ord.

12 Civil Registration, ON Death.

13 Civil Registration, Birth

14 Civil Registration, ON Birth.

15 Civil Registration, ON, Birth.

16 1901 census – Canada.

17 Civil Registration, Death

18 Index to Civil Registration, UK – Birth.

19 U.S. Soc. Sec. Death Index.

20 Michigan Birth Registration, 1867 – 1902 familysearch.org.

21 Michigan Death and Burials, 1800 – 1995 familysearch.org.

22 Civil Registration, ON Birth (Late).

Probable Connection to William Grimshaw, Revolutionary War Veteran

George Grimshaw is indicated in the above records as being the son of William and Elizabeth (Zephaniah or Lepninah) Grimshaw. This William is likely to be the William who fought in the Revolutionary War on the side of the colonials. His service is described on a companion webpage. After the war, this William lived in New Hampshire; records of his life life in that state are also described on a companion webpage. Since George was born in New Hampshire (see 1880 U.S. Census record below) at the time that William had a growing family there, it is highly likely (but still unproven) that George was their son. The 1880 census record indicates that George’s parents were both born in England, but no connection of William back to Lancashire or elsewhere in England has yet been established.

One of George’s brothers was apparently Zephaniah Grimshaw, who was probably named after his mother’s maiden name (see above.) Zephaniah and his several families are described on another companion webpage. His oldest son by his first marriage (to Jerusha Hunter) was named William (apparently after Zephaniah’s father, the Revolutionary War William.) This younger William was married to Mary Ann Blair and settled on Wolfe Island; they and their family are described on yet another companion webpage. Thus, it is likely that George and Charlotte, when they settled on Wolfe Island, joined George’s nephew, William (and Mary Ann) Grimshaw, who had moved there earlier.

Many descendants of George and Charlotte hope for “smoking gun” proof that George was the son of William, which will establish their lineage back to a veteran of the Revolutionary War.

Possible Mariner Connections of George Grimshaw Line

Family lore has it that George came from an English family of mariners and immigrated to Canada after marrying Charlotte, a French Canadian. An example of this family lore is a letter from Thomas H. Grimshaw (a descendant of George and Charlotte) to his niece, Fern Grimshaw, written in 1939, which contains the excerpt shown below. Thanks to Robert Grimshaw for making the letter from which this excerpt came available to the author.

Yes, I knew all your grandfathers brothers. They were George, John, Alex and Mike and a sister Lida. Their fathers name was John and his fathers name was John (editors note – this is in error; the correct name is George) and he came from England from a very rich family. His father owned a bunch of ships and my great-grandfather was Captain on one of them and he sailed from England to Canada one time. When he went back home to England he took a wife with him, a French girl. His dad disowned him for marrying in Canada and gave him his share and sent him back to Canada to stay. So that started the Grimshaws in this country

Further indication of possible mariner connections of this Grimshaw line comes from the records (written about 1984) of Lyra Hodgin, a South Dakota descendant of John James, the third child of George and Charlotte, concerning John James:

Our knowledge of the Grimshaw family is quite limited. It begins with John Grimshaw who was a Canadian who was a sailor on the Great Lakes we were told by his son George (T.) Grimshaw, who was my Grandfather. I do not know which Lake but since he lived in Wisconsin the first we knew of him I have an idea it was Superior. However George G. was born in Canada so it could have been one of the others.

Reference

¹J.H. Meacham & Co., 1878, Illustrated Historical Atlas of the Counties of Frontenac, Lennox, and Addington: Toronto, ON, unk. p.

Webpage History

Webpage posted August 2000, updated February 2002, March 2002. Updated February 2006 with Charlotte Menard ancestor information. Updated June 2006 with addition of grave photos in Oakdale cemetery. Updated December 2007 with addition of Google Earth image of George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s former property location. Webpage updated February 2009 with addition of information on George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s children Marcelina and Eli George Grimshaw – provided by Barbara Bonner. Webpage updated July 2010 with addition of information on George and Charlotte Grimshaw’s child Christina Grimshaw – provided by Barbara Bonner.